RE: Can you convert a new Toyota FJ Cruiser to a V8 instead of the V6? The V8 is a great car the you can mod the hell out of it. But if you want even more power, you can always do an engine swap. Plus, can I use my trucks Wiring harness, and just change my computer in my truck for V8 switch? taking out V6 and switching to V8 Power. So I think I can do the adjustments offline (on the office) on laptop with Virtual Machine, converting the backup multiproject from v6 to v8. But I thought antiques were smog exempt? Or do they check the VIN for the engine size or something? Leaving the smog issue aside, you will always run into a number of unforeseens with any swap… Always. Worth the watch, don't forget to like comment and subscribe to the channel. Anything over 25 (in my state) is eligible for an antique tag…, I think you may need new motor mounts or possibly have to relocate the motor mounts. Everything else is the same, you can even plug in the old instrument harness, but you'll need to change the setting on the back of the tacho. a tune and someone to reprogram the computer n wat not for the car. . a tune and an engine of course in then end it'll be cheaper to sell your car for a v8. https://support.industry.siemens.com/cs/ww/en/view/63481413. But if for some reason you want to do a V8 conversion for whatever reason, here is my advice. Then load the V7 upgrade licenses, do the upgrade to V7 (licenses). Additionally, you can download the help instruction from the "How To" section. The old ones have 25 years on them and it is far easier to swap them while the engine is out. You upgrade the licenses via Automation License Manager (ALM). Plus, installing mods is part of being an enthusiast. Plus, can I use my trucks Wiring harness, and just change my computer in my truck for V8 switch? Either way, you’ve likely thought about swapping out the tired sixer for a V8, but other things took priority in your life. I can't seem to find any documents about the license upgrade procedure. It would be like one USB to backup the licenses on each PC station. -also your rev tacho will be out by a mile. I suspect that the relative close cousin of the 4.3l is the venerable 5.7l or 350 v8 and an obviously choice and fit for a swap. For every smog you do enter the vin number, And I believe the vin does indicate what engine the truck is supposed to have. When you upgrade HIT and SANHQ the settings will be preserved. Right you can do a clean PCS 7 V8 load  (not a software upgrade) on all the PCS 7 stations (ES, OS Server, OS Client.. etc). What do you mean by the first sentence? On PCS7 v6 > v8 software upgrade, which goes v6 > v7 first before v7 > v8, I see that most adjustments is on the ES. Luckily for you, one of our Mustang Forums members penned THIS GUIDE all the way back in 2015, covering the V6 swap with the 4.6-liter V8. Both options offer a compact design that can balance out the movement and acceleration profile of the vehicle. But if it’s just going to be a knockaround town truck, that might add quite a bit of cost. The upper end HP mods are endless on the 5th Gen. Is there even other way than what you stated on the second sentence?hehe. So it shouldn’t be crazy difficult. I’m not certain the injectors or the throttle body bores are exactly the same size. As far as smog checks, I have no idea how that works, I do not have that in my state. If so, then what about the license upgrade on the first step, from v6 > v7? . The 4.3 was basically 3/4’s of a 350. A V-6 frequently offers better handling than a V-8 The reality is that the increase in horsepower you get when you go from a V-6 to a V-8 is relatively small. Small-block Chevy engines have been shoved into everything from Ford street rods to Dixie Chopper lawnmowers. You must only have the V6 licenses in ALM, then drag the V7 upgrade licenses in as well (and only the V7). Besure to export your V6 license to a csv file to have a record of what you have before you start the upgrade process. I'm aware of these, that's why I have this other thread, please give it a visit also if you have time maybe you could also give some inputs: https://support.industry.siemens.com/tf/ww/en/posts/windows-7-drivers-for-ipc547c/151881/?page=0&pageSize=10. If you are replacing a 4 cylinder, you must purchase a new GM starter, 1982 or newer. So once the inspector entered the vin, the smog program will be expecting a 4.3 liter V6 . One of the many attractions of the V6 series is its small, cordless and super maneuverable body. Just be sure not to put all the V6 licenses, V7 upgrade AND V8 upgrade licenses all at the same time expecting the upgrade to be done on its own without problems. Can I actually upgrade the license from v6 > v7 on the current v6 software, or I would need to upgrade all PC stations to v7 first just for the license upgrade? or it'll cost you like $4k Yes you can upgrade from V6 or 7 to V8, you may have to upgrade first from 6 to 7 and then to 8 (if you have full version installed or atleast a CD) If you have problems with the downloaded file(i had on 1 pc) delete old LUF files or put the V8 LUF file in other directory and choose update by using that file. The throttle body between the 4.3, 305, and 350 tbi trucks are all the same, except the injectors inside the TB are different for all 3 engines, so you will need 350 injectors. Your V6 engine uses the following wire colors for these cylinders. Jaguar Conversion Kit - the most complete kit to convert your Jaguar XJ6, XJ12 and XJS to Chevy V8 power. As a full time DD the stock V6 are hard to beat on MPG + fun factor. And you’re swapping throttle body injection to throttle body injection. The V6 is shorter and sits farther back in the engine bay, but I’m not sure if that’s due to motor mount differences or not. be legal, work with the bar, and get that bar referee label. If so, what you’re proposing can be a little bit tricky, from a legal standpoint. Do not be surprised when if you see some new alerts. . In Automation License Manager, you will already have V6 licenses. V6 T5 transmissions can be used behind a V8. The version of licenses for newer PCS 7 were only tested with the compatible version of Automation License Manager. I believe the wiring harness will be the same. Just make sure every sensor that is on the V6 is also on the V8. I think there are some aftermarket modules to control shifting but they’re about 600 bucks. Don’t just swap them though. Re: Swap v6 for v8 The V8 is 112mm (4.4") longer (hence the side mounts are 4.4" further forward) and requires a different leg ratio. You’ll discover a little more torque comes your way when you hit the gas with the V8 option, but the difference can be minimal in some vehicles. https://our.umbraco.com/.../Setup/Upgrading/migrating-to-v8 but you can see why lubrication would be so critical in a joint like this. Or actually, you can also visit my main thread, you might have some great inputs as well since you seem also very familiar with PCS7 Upgrade, if you have some time: https://support.industry.siemens.com/tf/ww/en/posts/pcs7-software-upgrade-v6-1-to-v8-2/151049/?page=0&pageSize=10. exhaust, gears and v8 swap...most common questions you'd need a built rear or an 8.8 rear end. This starter is much more durable and will provide longer service for your conversion. Then, they'll give you a new VIN number to make it legal. In the comments, you said this is a 2010 Mustang, with a 4.0 L V6. The V-6 can often provide more stability than a V-8 5. ? whatever that entails . Sometimes users mistakenly (on the PCS 7 V8 version of ALM)  will put the V6 + V7 + V8 licenses on all at the same time, and select 'upgrade' thinking that ALM will do the correct pairing and leave you will completely updated and valid V8 licenses. But it might be best to contact the bar, and possibly a referee, and tell them what you’re proposing, In the end, it might be easiest to do the swap . I like the buying all new sensors idea if this is going to be a really nice truck. Buy a wrecked V8 that isnt too badly damaged. V8 Update / Upgrade Activation This Video show, how you can activate your previous BERNINA Embroidery Software (V5 / V6 / V7), up to V8. The truck uses OBD-1, and the test has to be tail pipe emissions, not an OBD-2 code check. Complete the upgrade to V7, then repeat the process separately for V8. . So you are putting in a V8 in place of V6 engine. 1. The Dyson V6 vs V8 comparison – An in-depth researched guide Introducing the Dyson V6 – What are the V6 Models?. For things like free space or volume usage on thin provisioned volumes, etc.. You can modify these thresholds or … I see, then this I think would be the best method. 99 shouldnt be hard to find a wreck with a 302 v8 but if you doing it for horses go with the 351 5.8liter v8 i have a f250 it has the 351 . Thanks for any help! Make sure youre mechanic isn't retarded, Do as much as you can yourself to keep costs down. Ahm, how actually is the upgrading done? There are plenty of upgrades that will make your V6 almost as powerful as a V8. All engines have a fixed number of cylinders. I’m pretty sure you’ll need the V8 “chip”. Dyson’s V6 range was meant to be an upgrade on the DC59 vacuums. Need to know all that has to be done for me to put the 350 motor in my truck. ALM is updated automatically when you update to the later version of PCS 7. If you run into any issues during this process, be sure to contact Technical Support, https://support.industry.siemens.com/my/ww/en/requests#createRequest, The best location for all PCS 7 content (manuals, guides, application notes, FAQs, and videos). Perhaps we can a stickey one day on the 4.3l engine forum to have clear guidence how to upgrade all the different years of Silverado from the v6 to a v8. Looking for answers for my 1994 Chevy C1500 2 Wheel Drive Pickup truck, with 4.3 V6 Vortec Motor, 4L60.E Transmission. 3l engine forum to have clear guidence how to upgrade all the different years of Silverado from the v6 to a v8. Are you in a state that has emissions testing? You are saying I backup all license of the current PC stations (PCS7 v6), and then upgrade them all after the PC stations are upgraded (new and old IPC) to PCS7 v8, no need v6 > v7 software upgrade on PC stations, right? Given the availability of V6-to-V8 swap kits, replacing an anemic six-banger with a fire-breathing small-block is practically a bolt-in ordeal. Always upgrade from V6 licenses to only V7 licenses, then upgrade to V8 license separately. You can also 'only install' ALM from the disc set. 700R4 on the 89 and 4l60E with electronic controls on the 94. Maybe the Tundra or Tacoma V8 engine? Your truck might be old enough that they won’t require checking. So I believe it’s imperative to use a 1994 or 1995 V8 chip. Maybe a Tundra or Tacoma V8 will fit? As for the leg ratio. Thank you very much for your very detailed, complete, and informative response. does not matter the year … When removing the 2.8 V6 engine, your original starter motor can be retained for use with the V8 engine. ECM for one. Upgrading from V6.3 to V8.1 An upgrade from V7 to V8.1 takes approximately 20 - 50 minutes. Then in ALM (which is the compatible version with PCS 7 V8) you put the V6 licenses on (since you had to put the licenses on a USB stick from the old PCs to move to the new ones). you can see it's not much more than giant ball bearings in a cage that help distribute the power evenly. This time, though, you finally have the time to make your dream come true. That’s a little bit unfortunate, because it’s not a great place to start from: Luckily, we do actually have some options here. The upgrade package is separate and independent with the PCS7 software right? Depends on how nice this rig is intended to be! You can install the software to V8, and upgrade the V6 licenses to V7, and then in a separate process, load the V8 licenses, and upgrade from V7 to V8. I have a 5.7 V8 350 Motor out of a 1989 GMC 4x4 truck. I also would appreciate if you could also give some inputs on my main thread: https://support.industry.siemens.com/tf/ww/en/posts/pcs7-upgrade-package-v6-1-to-v8-2/151049?page=0&pageSize=300. You can use a V8 computer (or just install the chip into your computer) out of a 1994 or 1995 V8 truck. Agree with other commentators. GT buyers looking for maximum performance could spec the optional Brembo Brake package, which not only included four-piston front Brembo brakes, twin-piston rear brakes, larger 19” wheels and unique stability control programming. Anyways, it's good to know this method is also possible. Hence . The upgrading of license I think would be needed on the last stage of the upgrade, when the multiproject is already upgraded offline to version 8 and it's already to be tested on the new PC stations (old PC stations now offline), on the recommissioning part, so that wouldn't be a problem I think. 5th Gen V6 to V8 Swap. So if you were upgrading to V8, ALM was never tested in PCS 7 V6 for V8 licenses. What exactly would I need to swap from the 4.0 v6 I have in my Explorer, to a 4.6 v8. The Dodge Ram series is a prim… Have a huge wad of cashed saved up to do the conversion itself. Want to go from the standard V6 to a V8. You`ll need V8 front coil springs, crossmember, radiator and etc. This would leave the PC stations hanging (ES, OSSs and OSCs), they (new IPCs and old reuse) will only be set up/upgrade on the final step, when I already have the upgraded v8 project to be loaded, so the PC would go like from v6 > v8. He goes into price and issues he's encountered. By replacing it with a V8 engine. Also note, the station does not have to be loaded at V7 just to do the license upgrade. Right now I have a 4.3L V6 with the 5-speed manual transmission. If you decide to go with the V8 engine instead of the V6, then you are paying for a higher power ceiling. Bernd D. Ratsch 1997 Dodge Dakota SLT Supercharged w/Nitrous Gary Smith Unregistered 3/09/2001 12:21:42: RE: V6->V8 Conversion IP: Logged Message: The Transmission that I have on the 3.9 is the automatic. This path … Sorry, my mind works like a criminal sometimes. - there will be little things you need to know. With SANHQ there are some new monitors that get installed. Is the above right? How do I do this actually, do I need to retrieve all licenses on their respective PC stations (v6 ES license to the new v8 ES PC, v6 OSS license to v8 OSS PC, etc.) If you have the software, you should upgrade, then upgrade the licenses. It might be tempting to swap a V8 into a V6, but the effort might not be worth the reward. You answered all my inquiry so well that I have nothing more to say but thanks a lot! If you’re driving something heavy, go with the upgrade in power to ensure that you can get to where you need to … Besure to export your V6 license to a csv file to have a record of what you have before you start the upgrade process. I am not going to say buy a V8 because it's a nice looking car and would be a great wagon as is, but at the end of the day mate you are going to be up for a lot more than 15k buy the time you get all the little things out the road, not to mention the time factor involved in doing such a conversion. V8s have a higher ceiling for power and they are comparatively simple from a design perspective, but are naturally heavy. I searched a bit just for funsies. Or if you have both throttle bodies, you could visually compare the bore size. V8 engines have a higher ceiling for power. . If you are switching to front discs (and 5-lugs), you don't want this rearend. so if you've got a jk, you may want to invest in some driveshafts. . Once that is complete and no V7 licenses say  (upgrade), then you drag on the V8 PCS 7 licenses, and repeat. I don't have any desire to create a 700+ HP car. The holes for the mounts are already in the frame, all you do is get the mounts for a firebird or Z28 V8 car of the same year. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. This Site Might Help You. Recondition all of those parts. I have a 5.7 V8 350 Motor out of a 1989 GMC 4x4 truck. (my car was a Berlina, it might have a different cluster than you) but the tempreture guage is different on a v6 to a v8 and it will read cooler than it is once the V8 is in. This will not work. Buy new ones. I’m fairly certain 1994 was the first (may have been 2nd) year the trans was computer controlled (4l60e). Thank you. Need info about Wiring, Computer, Sensors, or more? If you haven't seen already here is the latest video in which a member here has just about finished his 2012 Camaro conversion from a V6 to V8. If you're thinking about buying a V-6, there are several advantages that this engine type can offer over a V-8: 1. I agree with @Scrapyard_John. I think these mounts are the same for the V8. Sure glad you are thinking about this before you start!! If you only have a few simple bolt on mods to your car now I would say trade up if it makes since finically. But, you will need a V8 bellhousing, and the input shaft is smaller than V8 T5's - meaning you need a small-spline clutch disk (reports are there is a 10" S10 small spline disk available), and the transmission will be very weak and will not stand up to V8 … . C6 to V8 4.6 in an 02 Explorer 2 Answers. If your upgrading from V6-> V8 and your keeping the old machines, make sure that the PCs meet the PCS 7 minimum requirements which can be found in the readme file of the version of V8.X that you are going to. V-6 engines can offer some powerful towing capabilities 3. You could transfer the licenses from the PC stations to a USB then upgrade them in the office, however remember that your PC stations (which are presumably running a process) are no longer licensed for use and will have issues. Need info about Wiring, Computer, Sensors, or more? I don't believe you can upgrade the V6 licenses to to V7 or V8 on the V6 station, haven't tried it, and would be nervous to do that. See my reponses below, they are in italics. Is this possible?? You can upgrade the multi-project on a remote station no problem. I think you may need new motor mounts or possibly have to relocate the motor mounts. (you can get that done the same time as the temp guage) Should be able to look up part numbers for those parts on each engine and see. not to mention they don't like a ton of horsepower being pumped through them, especially at angles. it has to be recalabrated. Need to know all that has to be done for me to put the 350 motor in my truck. I’d search “4.3 to 350 tbi swap” and see what info I could get. V8, and 1 & 6 on a V6. The horsepower gain from a V-6 to a V-8 is minimal 2. and upgrade them twice there (since upgrade license package is separate on each of PC station, and 2 each, one v6 > v7 and the other v7 > v8 right)? I can’t speak to the legalities, procedures and regulations in Nevada . TBI to TBI swap, need the V8 chip OR a V8 ECU from 1994. and plan on getting a bar referee label, The advantage of this is that it’s indisputably legal, and when you bring the truck to get smogged in the future, the inspector will simply refer to the label, versus trying to figure out what you have and if it’s even legal to perform the inspection, If you did the swap, and used a V8 radiator shroud from the same year truck with a sticker from the factory stating V8 epa info (I think they put it on the fan shroud on those trucks), I wonder if they’d even notice? I'm building a 5.7L V8 to replace the V6 but my concern is the transmission; will the V8 bolt up to the transmission and if so do I need to upgrade the stock transmission or should I get a transmission to replace it? All work done by Next Generation auto. Your environment might produce different results than that obtained in the labs. If they do, make sure an engine swap like this is legal as long as it passes. You can install the software to V8, and upgrade the V6 licenses to V7, and then in a separate process, load the V8 licenses, and upgrade from V7 to V8. . Check Nevada’s smog check requirements for age. Or maybe I can transfer all license of all PC stations and upgrade them all offline on laptop VM? Would it be due to the v6 station PC platform (WinXP)? The Mustang GT got even bigger upgrade for 2011, debuting the 5.0 liter Coyote V8, pushing output to 412hp and bringing a host of other improvements. Looking to do a conversion to my FJ Cruiser 2008. . The front 2 cylinders were lopped off the V8 and the transmission face needs to be in the same spot so I think you are good to go. . I am an ex Ford tech. Is there a separate software to be installed or maybe just a small program to be run to upgrade the licenses? V-6 engines make vehicles less nose-heavy when driving 4. Expecting a 4.3 liter V6 the labs, to a V8 into a V6, what! 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