I did not have any photo ID so he was going to call the police but eventually decided not to after I'd explained my situation. I could hear his side of the discussion, he said it was his boss. Unless something sets you apart from the rest, nothing will probably happen if you ignore this. And just by chance I happened to look really different today then I normally do (really identifying hair not out today). They have my full name and address, so I would have thought that if Boots themselves were so intent on prosecuting me, they would have reported me already and the police would have been at my house. I live in Oklahoma. If you are trying to post a different story then you should start your own new thread. He called through to the store manager today who advised the matter hasn't been reported to the police and there is no requirement to pay any 'fine' on Monday. They actually contract with an attorney to send demand letters. What will happen? If they didn't call police, there will be no criminal charges and nothing on your record. when I said I couldn't pay the £700 upfront. If the Police were going to be involved then they'd have been called. Can someone tell me if this is likely to be reported to the police, despite what he said? Apparently it will be around three weeks before I get the first letter. The manager who suspended me apparently decided to go against HR advice anyway and went for the full thing but I was found completely innocent and reinstated into my role. The bailiff: A 12th Century solution re-branded as Enforcement Agents for the 21st Century to seize and sell debtors goods as before Oh so Dickensian! I probably wouldn't have gone as far as contacting Boots to get the information. they hire 1-5 lawyers for collections in each country, they wont pursue. Once the normal practice of getting your details has been completed, he should have escorted you to the door and that should have been it. Stealing from a Walmart self-checkout or store is never a good idea because you will most likely be caught. I can see no reason why they wouldn't pass on evidence to the police to deal with. Some people who were caught stealing thought they would get a slap on the wrist. If not, speak to S Svs or his GP Practice asap to discuss this. Once your financial circumstances change sufficiently enough you could offer them something but not before. But if you cant pay, dont stress too much. It feels to me like I'm the only one but obviously common sense tells me that a huge city store very likely has plenty of regular shoplifters to deal with and I can't imagine they would be putting the time in to have staff meetings about all these cases, otherwise they would never have time to be on the shop floor! Throwaway. I also have no previous criminal record, completely clean. The LP said that he had also contacted RLP and that, based on the footage they had of me stealing various items over such a long period of time, the 'fine' they would be looking to give me is £3k, which obviously I know everyone would tell me not to pay anyway. Good luck. PPCs have been known to "lose" these in the past and try to go for for the ticket again. The guy said he would call me on Monday morning at 9am, presumably I'd be going to the Boots store, but he didn't specify. Caught shoplifting in Boots, police not called - HELP! If you fail to pay the civil demand, Walmart may pursue their claim in civil small claims court against you. To be blunt its done its over forget it move on! Perhaps they rely on their own evidential process rather than a stores CCTV. There's so many of those apps that maybe he will even be wondering if I did record that call and he'll just let it lie now. My local shop has been hit big time by shoplifters recently, I advised a change of shelves for the high end items, coffee/washing products so they are no longer in a blind spot, they have a rogues wall so to speak, and if they notice the suspected thief come in, they are asked to leave which they do, the result is this particular shop still has stock, but the next one up the road has been hit. As well, they told me Wal-Mart will review the case, I may either have to just pay the amount, double the amount, or maybe even nothing at all. If he does, try and record it. Earlier this year my boss told me two people in the district decided not to pay and even got nasty on the phone with the lawyers. though he denied saying any of those things.. . https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/428951-natwest-bank-transfer-fraud-call-hmrc-please-help/&do=findComment&comment=5079786. I shouldn’t have tried to shoplift anything at all. i would not be paying anyone...simply ambulance chaser charging a fee for something you can do. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the lossprevention community, This subreddit is for the worldwide Loss Prevention community to share war-stories, advice, news and insight. What i am trying to say without actually saying it is that this seems very dodgy to me. If it came up 'number withheld' I would be very wary. He was absolutely lovely and not at all threatening. What you could do with is a third party acting for you to contact Boots about this guy and see if they are legit or not. Please note that this topic has not had any new posts for the last. Just to update on this, I got a third party to call Boots HO about this and she spoke to a lovely man called Toby. I agree, and he seemed so confident and convincing when he was speaking to me that it's making me think I won't be the first person he has tried this with and I'm sure there will be others who've coughed up. If your parents can't be reached then LP will call the police to … If you got caught? I'm thinking that if I don't pay the fines, the CCTV footage they have of me will then be passed to the police and a charge brought against me. Good to see they've done a second story on you https://www.basingstokegazette.co.uk/news/19074577.man-stood-ground-st-michaels-retail-parking-charges-gets-debt-cancelled/ Is it just a simple case of the police not being interested if they weren't called at the time? I've ended up being OK but there was a period of five weeks when we didn't know who was for the chop and who wasn't. even if a debt has been to court.. They will not pass the information on as they have lost the chance to involve them by letting you go. I suggest making a donation to charity instead (when you can-not before). I'm just wondering now if that security guard will be questioned in relation to that call. If its a company phone then the call will be logged on the system, if the LP used his own phone again this will also be there. You fucked up, but it's not the end of the world and there are no criminal charges. That says it all ok! Is there any way for them to know about the past stuff since I’ve never been caught before? If he or they call again remind them that this is harassment. Like I said yesterday it's done and dusted move on. It would be an easy prosecution, I could imagine. I am more than familiar with the sort of tactics and threats they're likely to come out with and experience of this does mean I'm not the type now to cave under pressure with silly letters. Ive stolen from there before but only maybe twice in the last month or so not including being caught today. Toby has reassured me a lot in terms of police involvement, they haven't been called and he said they're highly unlikely to be, though he obviously couldn't say it's a guarantee but I'm guessing I can pretty much take that as they won't be involved. I feel like I should pay something because I did steal a lot of items and feel I should atone for that. It made me smile. If you're under 16, Walmart's LP must release you to a parent or guardian. Hi tonytrick, It's not going to happen. has the authority and is NOT using the word FINE? I'm just glad I found out it wasn't legit before parting with the cash. https://t.co/LtfHGWWhC4. Some people are going to say "don't pay the civil". She agreed to transfer me some money there and then and after I got off the phone to her, I was in tears in front of the LP (because it was the first time I'd ever lied to my precious gran). and they'd be at your door if they were interested at all. It's not about the 'moral high ground' You stole, he exploited that presumably for his own ends. (except stop stealing) !! As for RLP. Obviously phone records can be investigated by the police but I highly doubt anyone would do that in this case, especially since I'm in no position myself to take the moral high ground. He completely believed me, which was helped by the fact I had the Stepchange letter in my bag which I had with me as I needed it earlier in the day to show my manager at work - I was advised to contact Stepchange as it's a recognised place of support by my company. At the end of the day, it was a pretty small dollar amount and the LP didn't want to bother prosecuting, so chill. I've read people don't usually pay these fines but I fully intend to because in my case, the store is out of pocket as they were only able to recover the item I was trying to steal yesterday but they know I've done it before as he was able to go into detail about certain items I know I've stolen, even right down to how I concealed them and the aisles I was in at the time. As we know its advised to ignore. The LP guy made out like I was the worst shoplifter they had ever had in saying they'd had meetings about it and all sorts, but logically I can't imagine that happens. . Does your Gdad have a social worker appointed by Social Services to represent his interests as a vulnerable adult. Remember that although you were searched he or they had no right to look into or use your mobile phone or demand your number. Since you didn't, then it is likely it won't affect you. They collected £350. Thanks everyone for the help and support. He had the opportunity right there to call them over and report me but he didn't. Just because a store may, or may not have CCTV, doesn't mean there are cameras in every aisle and doesn't mean someone is watching them all the time. Stop stealing. Thanks for the response, and you can absolutely bet your life I will never be doing it again. And maybe they make more money going down the civil route than through the courts, since that may result in conviction but no compensation to the store. He was only 25. We will help as long as necessary so long as you commit to not doing this again. I’ve never been caught in there shoplifting before, I was approached as i was leaving the store. And just recently there were a load of redundancies announced in my department. And I've already downloaded an app that records calls automatically so if he does call again, it will all be on there. I work in the financial services industry and they've recently brought in annual credit checking for financial soundness. If you wish to donate money then donate to CAG lol. You got caught shop lifting didn't you? Do you think there may be a bit of depression there? I agree it sounds like he might want this cash in his back pocket but to be honest, I don't care if it buys me peace of mind. I hadn't noticed but the LP had also made a call to someone at the same time as I'd been speaking to my gran. You can always ask your mobile supplier to change your number. WOW! June 30, 2016 in Retail loss Prevention/Other shoplifting allegations. Thanks to everyone who advised me on this, it felt shifty from the start but without some other opinions. I am in a lot of debt and do have multiple defaults and a CCJ. He said that would be the end of the case. if I have to go through the kind of credit checking that I go through, which obviously is correct. Post in Bailiffs in at BBC obtain 7 years interest on overpayment of TV licence, Post in Court Claim Against Hermes - item sent via Packlink was lost/tampered with **WON at mediation full amount **, Natwest Bank Transfer Fraud Call HMRC Please help, http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?448994-RLP-FAQ-s.-What-do-they-mean-Reviewed-September-2015. As for Boots, I would suggest that you are not in any position to pay them anything. I'm wondering if I should call the Boots head office and ask if this is a known practice in their stores. I will, i promise. I'm not too concerned about those anyway - as someone who's spent years in a lot of debt. He says the cops are accusing them of stealing groceries. It's not too likely that they will, but just keep in mind that it's a possibility. I'm in the back office. He did also take my phone number and said he'd be 'ringing it through' first thing today and I haven't had any calls, he seemed to be making reference to RLP when he was talking about the report but in my state at the time, I wasn't entirely sure and I left without asking a load of questions I should have. If this guy rings you up again, record the call any way you can. He said his boss thought it should be reported to the police as I'm likely a risk in the job I'm in. I h … read more If you’ve been charged with shoplifting after using a Walmart of any other self-checkout lane, you have important legal rights that can help you avoid a false or unfair criminal conviction. Not worth it. I know , I regret it , i cant honestly tell you why i did it , its like you have a friend who gets you on it for one time and you just get caught the next . Ignore and when they send a few more letters, ignore them too. At one point, a couple of PCSO officers even walked right past us and he just smiled and waved at them and made it look like he was having a chat with a friend. There is no way he would be calling you about a 'fine' when Boots policy is to pass on civil cases to RLP to chase.When those letters star, we can assist. Pay your restitituition and stop stealing shit. Or are you saying that they'd have done that already if they wanted to? He took my photo and details, said I was banned from all Boots stores for life, and then gave me one of the RLP leaflets. It's also worth adding that he said an 'in store' fine would be around £700. I couldn't deny any of it. However, you can go to jail up to a year for petty theft. Story: I took alot of stuff the total was 274.10 worth of cosmetics . The LP told me he suspects I've had about a grand's worth of merchandise and he's probably not wrong. Forced to pay a few grand. In this case, because the merch was recovered, it will probably not go to collections if the demand isn't paid. i would hope and pray no one gets in my situation ! Have a chat with your GP if needed. By Not 100% sure. https://t.co/l9MAfl8zSy, Lloyds Creditcard sold to Caboot now taken to County Court. Will this go on my record? While no doubt no evidence exists and I bet he has cleared his phone log, I feel his actions should be reported to the SIA who licence security staff. As far as his call to me goes, I only hope the seed has been planted on their side, and that maybe they will wonder if that call actually did take place. If you are asked to deal with any matter via private message, . I really do hope whoever lp is [what does LP stand for?]. I sent in the bailiffs to the BBC. Take it from me if you steal again then you can kiss goodbye a perfectly great career, its not worth it, take some advice go car booting and see the deals you can pick up there, like No7 products and so on, very cheap too. As the police did not attend in this particular case, they shouldn't be involved but as Boots 'allege' they have the evidence of other thefts, why not pass it on for the feds to investigate. I can't as I'm not at work today and I live 30 miles away from that city centre. View the full article. They got destroyed in court. but when I gave my number on the day I was caught (with a female staff member present also). I'm perfectly happy to pay this fine if this is going to be an end to it. But it's up to you if you wanna test them. https://t.co/Cao6a4gUdM, Old debt with Charging Order - Cabot/MC/Engage. Caught stealing $22 worth of merchandise from Walmart. I have literally exchanged one set of problems for another, not to mention increased my debt but that's the least of my worries right now. I’ll turn a new leaf. Posting on this thread is likely to mean that you won't get the help and advice that you need. Despite what he said, I'm still terrified they will change their mind and report this because of all the evidence they have, which I know they must have because of the detail they went into. Everything I say is opinion only. Walmart did not call the police and did not ban you from the stores. No more time spending chatting and I bet none of this 'chat' was mentioned inside the store. I was wondering if I should contact an attorney. RLP CANNOT FINE YOU, only the police or courts can do that, there is no point whatsoever in paying RLP anything. Well done on going to the local rag, all this will empower others who would have given in to fight back. As I said yesterday this seemed dodgy. Have we helped you – would you like to make a donation to us? If you are trying to post information which is relevant to the story in this thread then please flag it up to the site team and they will allow you to post. I feel so stupid and I know I will never be doing this again. If GDad has the 50% share of the home, it'll have to be sold and 50% of the NET proceeds will be available to cover any care home fees payable. Is it worth the risk? You don't have to but they may take you to court where they will win and you'll have to pay the fine and court costs so it is better to just pay the $200. I feel so ashamed and so stupid. (please be respectful to the job and the members of the sub), Press J to jump to the feed. The allegations were dropped after a full investigation which found absolutely nothing, but it dragged on for so long because (unbeknownst to me at the time) HR were refusing to take it to disciplinary stage. Copyright Reclaim the Right Ltd - reg: 05783665 I was cooperating but my friend was not so they called the police. To this day I'll never know why it went that far. Apparently she also spoke to the security guard who denied mentioning anything about a cash fine, he claimed he only called me to discuss the charges I would be getting from RLP and to clarify thing further. Well an hour passed and as soon as I was about to walk out the police got there. He said his boss was really not happy that the police weren't being called, and also wanted me arrested because the job I'm in 'must involve money'. If I have been of any help, please click on my star and leave a note to let me know, thank you. He started off by saying that even though I wasn't arrested, they could still 'crime' it because of all the other evidence and at the very least I'm looking at a big fine, which I fully expect and accept. If by chance you are caught stealing at Walmart again, even a different one across the country, they would be able to tell you've been stopped at a Walmart before, but employers and even the police won't know. But whats going to happen? There would be no need for it as they pass on all cases to RLP. He completely agreed that something didn't seem right and he advised the majority of shoplifting cases are dealt with as civil matters. Please click, Copyright Reclaim the Right Ltd - reg: 05783665, Car dealer who sold death traps and forged court papers, Local Authority Parking and Traffic Offences, Twitter - Include the @company's twitter name in your post title – here's why…. Next morning after night time delivery. he could easily have been pretending to call someone else. They would have contacted law enforcement when they apprehended you if they wanted you charged. Why not? The LP guy said I had only got lucky that he had never been on duty to catch me. That doesn't seem like normal practice either. He took a photo of the address section. I would bet good money that Wal-Mart Security just didn't want to go through the hassle of getting the police involved for a minor first offense. If he was acting on behalf of the store, they have landlines so he would have called from them. And seriously this will stop me, I don’t want to do this anymore I don’t want this to affect my life for years to come because I was stupid now. My only slight worry is that now he knows he's not getting that cash, he could report me to the police now as there's nothing in it for him but I'm guessing he won't since Boots have already been told about this call and whilst he's denied it, I'm sure it will be making them wonder why I would make that up since I had no reason to! Dont do it again. No cops were called as far as i know. He also spent the whole time smoking his e-cig, which also seemed very strange considering the situation. If you try suing them, they will crush you, but if you ignore it nothing will likely happen. Its WAR posted a post in a topic, January 24, jj58 posted a post in a topic, December 12, 2020, BankFodder posted a topic in Postal and Delivery Services, November 11, 2020, waz70 posted a topic in NatWest Bank, November 10, 2020. Now available on Amazon. It kind of feels like this is a bribe - 'pay us this and we won't tell the police' - which is the only thing I feel I've got to my advantage, since I'm sure large stores wouldn't usually handle something like that in this way. With all my correct details and the evidence, surely it would be a nice and easy case for them? You got lucky, Walmart policy says we should call the police for theft over $25. Agreed that two wrongs don't make a right. Ladybug1, All in all, you shouldn't freak out over this too much. I'd get on to S Svs asap. LP (loss prevention), he calls himself a Loss Prevention Officer which I'm guessing is a fancy word for security guard. This is what they rely on, your lack of knowledge and you panicking as you are... As far as atoning, you have already, you came here, just remember this:- If you steal it they will come! are NOT and can NEVER be BAILIFFS. Either way, stop stealing. Please click HERE. Giving money away to RPL is throwing it away for no reason. I know you say to ignore the letters, which I can understand in cases where the items were recovered and the shop suffered no loss but in my case the shop have taken a loss because of the other things I stole, which they have evidence of. Policy actually dictates that there should have been police involved and you should have been charged with a crime (or at least a citation). CAR DEALER CLUB CDC LTD Esa Khalid, Yardley - TRADING ON EBAY - car went bang! Most company lawyers allow payment plans. It isn't hard to sort through the entrances looking for an individual if you know what they look like. I’m so so sorry. Most people, especially first-time offenders, are then sentenced to probation and have to pay fines. They may have been watching out for you because they saw you steal before. They may or may not report the theft to a national crime/theft database that employers use when hiring people, so be prepared for that. Hyundai is making a name for itself as an innovator, even though talks with Apple have fizzled out. Anyway, have tried to back you up on the first story and will add a comment to the second tomorrow (also setting the journalist right about "fine" dx!) Thank you. They will pass this fictitious charge on to a debt collector who can also be ignored even when they say they will pass the debt back to RLP and recommend they take court action. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor, Please help CAG. Can the NHS make us sell a house to pay for care home? But no this won’t show up on any record other than Walmart’s. Last night night I was caught shoplifting at Boots. You're banned from there so don't go back. I started doing it with the intention that I'd only do it a few times and then try find another way to make money but it was so easy that it carried on. 'because you have stolen stuff that's never been recovered or paid for'... amything you pay RLP will NEVER get back to the retailer. The police and the Walmart guy talked outside the door and when they came back in the Walmart guy decided to let me go so I didn't get arrested. If you are trying to post information which is relevant to the story in this thread then please flag it up to the site team and they will allow you to post. We don't not judge here on CAG we all make mistakes. If you are unsure on any comment made, you should see a qualified solicitor, Please help CAG. So I tried to log in with my favourite password and managed to. Please note that this topic has not had any new posts for the last 1683 days. Can someone advise what I should be doing? I got caught stealing from Walmart. LP employees are here to answer the community's questions! But it could come back to haunt the OP IF they continue their chosen path! SF. But it would NEVER occur to me to steal from my workplace. You got away this time. he called me from the company mobile phone he was using to check I'd given him the right number and it rang as withheld then. Obviously yeah they can check cameras and all but I feel like that’d be difficult to see every other time it’s happened. Apparently she also spoke to the security guard who denied mentioning anything about a cash fine, he claimed he only called me to discuss the charges I would be getting from RLP and to clarify thing further. You are with Stepchange and as such you need to ensure that you are only paying them what you can and not what you think your creditors want. I was detained by LP and they advised they had been watching me for a months, maybe even a year, and knew I had stolen other items. Can the NHS make us sell a house to pay for care home?. https://t.co/XAzfSseGeO, Debt from the UAE. Firstly, I hope this lesson is enough for you to stop permanently. But this depends on a lot of factors. I was completely honest on these checks but my manager said that going forward, I must show I'm repaying more of my debts than I have been otherwise they can't prove I'm financially sound and this could affect my job. There are apps that can be used to record all calls. I've been dirt broke before with 50 cents to a dollar in my account every week after bills and never once stole. ), it was to do with breaching data protection but was all based on hearsay and nothing else. Powered by Invision Community. If care home fees have to be paid you will have to liquidate YGdad's assets to pay or cover the fees yourselves Toby himself that Boots prefer to deal with things as a civil matter, which is obviously because they know there's more chance of making money out of people that way. But in my case I'm concerned they could still report it - they have my name and address and all the footage, all they've got to to do is report it and I'm sure the police would be interested in arresting me based on the amount of footage they've got. and essentially go back directly to Boots. Your third party has confirmed this. I had a call from the LP who caught me today. 2 videos why would Boots, who have ultimately taken the loss here. Be honest. He then made a call to someone on another phone whilst on the line to me. Send a fine? You could be right there, though I've never ever thought of myself as depressed, I'm always very jovial and happy but I've had a pretty rough year - lost a close friend suddenly last year after he got food poisoning, he was type 1 diabetic and slipped into a coma and died. If a sixteen year old gets caught stealing from Walmart they will most likely be asked to return the merchandise and leave the store. If he did this with Boots blessing, there will be something written somewhere. Most stores have forgotten about you the moment you are released. He might even be questioned about it. I get what you're saying and I know that in the majority of cases, if they haven't called the police at the time then they won't. A family leaving a Walmart in Kansas was stopped by police and accused of shoplifting. Order this ebook. 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